Monday, November 14, 2005

Remember the call for a "Democratic plan"?

Come now, you must remember...
David Brooks: But most Democrats seem to be acting as if the main problem with the country is that the country doesn't hate George Bush enough. And if we only shout louder, they'll hate him more like tourists in Paris who think they'll understand us if we scream a little louder. And to me, it's led to the brain death of the Democratic Party. I don't know where the party stands on Iraq.

Some idiot: I had to stop myself from shouting at my television last night. Picture Nancy Pelosi giving her response to Bush's speech last night. She said we have no plan for winning things in Iraq. What has she been smoking?...Maybe Nancy is just smarter than we conservatives. She should enlighten the rest of us if she has a better plan.

Rush Limbaugh: Let's just play a hypothetical game. Suppose for the fun of it that they're right. Suppose Bush lied about everything. Suppose that there was no intelligence suggesting Iraq and Saddam were looking for weapons of mass destruction or ever had them. Okay, let's say they win this. What then? Has anybody heard a plan from them as to what to do next? If we get the world to admit, "Okay, Bush lied," then what? Well, you impeach Bush, but then what? Well, there's nothing, because they have no plan.
So, what happens? Dems come up with a plan.

And what do the Senators from the Republican "party of ideas" do? They steal the Dem plan, then cut-and-paste. You cannot make this shit up.
The proposal on the Iraq war, from Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader, and Senator John W. Warner, Republican of Virginia, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, would require the administration to provide extensive new quarterly reports to Congress on subjects like progress in bringing in other countries to help stabilize Iraq. The other appeals related to Iraq are nonbinding and express the position of the Senate.

The plan stops short of a competing Democratic proposal that moves toward establishing dates for a phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq. But it is built upon the Democratic approach and makes it clear that senators of both parties are increasingly eager for Iraqis to take control of their country in coming months and open the door to removing American troops.

Mr. Warner said the underlying message was, "we really mean business, Iraqis, get on with it." The senator, an influential party voice on military issues, said he did not interpret the wording of his plan as critical of the administration, describing it as a "forward-looking" approach.

"It is not a question of satisfaction or dissatisfaction," he said. "This reflects what has to be done."

Democrats said the plan represented a shift in Republican sentiment on Iraq and was an acknowledgment of growing public unrest with the course of the war and the administration's frequent call for patience. "I think it signals the fact that the American people are demanding change, and the Republicans see that that's something that they have to follow," said Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader.

Mr. Frist said an important reason for the Republican proposal was to offer an alternative to the Democratic call for a withdrawal timetable. "The real objective was to get out of this timeline of cutting and running that the Democrats have in their amendment," he said.

Mr. Warner said he decided to take the Democratic proposal and edit it to his satisfaction in an effort to find common ground between the parties on the issue. (Emphasis Nitpicker's.)
Of course, when a Democrat takes the freely offered talking points of an ally and uses them in a letter, it's called plagiarism. When a Republican just edits a Democratic plan and presents it as a Republican plan, then that's a "grand vision." Right, Glenn?

My side hurts from laughing at these silly bastards for the last few weeks.


Blogger Herb said...

Great post... good writing. My side hurts too... still laughing at that weasel Bush speech, hiding behind Troops/Vets and "responding to critics." Later, Herb.

12:21 AM  
Blogger The Heretik said...

Nicely done. Cited you here. Keep up the fine work.

8:45 AM  
Blogger Media In Trouble said...

Meanwhile check the headline:

"Senate Republicans Pushing for a Plan on Ending the War in Iraq"

The ever enlightening editorial staff at the NYTimes strikes again. Burying the lede and getting the headline wrong.

11:31 AM  
Blogger Bryan said...

The Republicans do it all the time and no one seems to notice, Department of Homeland Security ring a bell. The problem is that they always modify the plan in a manner that costs more and does less than the original.

6:38 PM  
Blogger Rocky Smith said...

I'm the "Some Idiot" you quoted. I just love the "plan" you liberals have. Cut and run as soon as you can without looking too chickenshit. That's a great plan. Why don't you publicize it and run with it? We have a lot of work to do in Iraq before we can leave. Republicans like myself want us to get out as soon as the job is finished, and not before. If that is stealing from your great PLAN, then so be it. I still say that is no plan at all. None of you seems to understand that running away is seen as a sign of weakness by the terrorists. If you leave that quickly, they will feel they have won. I'm not sure they'd be wrong.

6:57 AM  
Blogger Nitpicker said...


Your argument is what? That Republicans just copied our plan--leaving out only the timeline--which was a chickenshit plan to start with?

I'm going to put you on the list of people I'm glad will never defend me.

10:28 AM  
Blogger Rocky Smith said...

I'm certainly not suprised that you don't get it, Terry. It's more important for you leftists to hammer Bush than it is to have a reasonable outcome in Iraq. Leaving before the job is finished is just stupid. A stable democracy with rights for all will transform the entire region. Citizens of neighboring nations will demand the same for themselves. If this happens, the security of the rest of the world will be better off. The people of this region will benefit also if they can throw out the despotic rulers they now have. Maybe women will even begin to be treated better than cattle. Do you care about them, or only women of western nations?

And why would I ever defend you and your left wing idiotic thought? I would defend your right to be a leftist and say all the things you believe, but seldom your ideas.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Nitpicker said...

Maybe you're right. Maybe the whole world will be better because we attacked Iraq. Maybe the theocrats now filling the power vacuum will decide they've been wrong all along and let women show their faces. Maybe they won't decide that showing your calf muscle is a stoning offense.

And maybe everyone will ride pink, sparkly ponies.

Delusion abounds. Have fun with that. Some of us have been overseas in the GWOT and see that your pie-in-the-sky ideas get all jumbled up when they hit the ground.

And, um, you wouldn't defend me. That's the point. I'll see if I can borrow Drudge's flashing beacon and stick in every comment in which I'm insulting your intelligence and/or rhetorical skill. That way you'll be less confused and know when to be angry.

11:19 AM  
Blogger Rocky Smith said...

Insult away Terry. You mistakenly assume I care about your opinion of me. Your use of insults says much more about you than it does me. I notice that many of you liberals resort to that tactic. It makes me howl with laughter. Get over yourself!

11:58 AM  
Blogger Nitpicker said...

Thanks for the permission.


12:17 PM  

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