Thursday, September 13, 2007

How they really feel

For all their rhetoric, some days it becomes blatantly obvious just how truly cold and callous are the right wing pundits and politicians. Today is one of those days.

First you have Bush's "indispensable confidant," House Minority Leader John Boehner, who answered a question from Wolf Blitzer about the "loss in blood, the Americans who are killed every month" by saying that those losses are a "small price."

Boehner's statement is just one of the latest showing how the right really thinks about the loss of life in Iraq, but they are everywhere to be found, if one looks. Consider, for example, this post at The Corner by National Review contributor David Freddoso.
Breaking: Clueless, Graceless Jerks [David Freddoso]

Code Pink disrupts a dicussion [sic] on the war at the Heritage Foundation, all captured on C-Span. They rushed the stage and took control for about five minutes, I am told, while the peeved panelists looked on. They were finally led away.

It's all well and good to oppose the war and to protest, but these people need to get a life.
Do you get that? People are dying in George W. Bush's stupid war, but it's clueless and graceless to get so pissed about that waste that you would dare interrupt a panel of Heritage Foundation "scholars"—including Fred Kagan and Michael O'Hanlon—as they pontificate about a war in which their every prediction has proven wrong.

So the message from the right is this: Please "get a life" and quit being so "graceless" in opposing the war because, after all, 3744 dead Americans is a "small price" to pay for a complete and utter fucking failure.


Blogger PoliShifter said...

There's two arguments Conservatives are working off now to maintain support for the occupation of Iraq.

1) Appeal to Pity - that is, if we leave Iraq there will be a massive bloodbath. Iraqis will die and that will be so terrible...America, you don't want that guilt.

2) Appeal to Honor - If we leave Iraq before the mission is over then we will dishonor those soldiers who died in Iraq. We need to stay in Iraq in order to complete the mission so that the soldiers will get a chance to die with honor. Don't take that away from them. If you bring the soldiers home now, you erase their chances of dying with honor and sully the memories of those that died.

The major flaws in these arguments is that neither have anything to do with the orignal reasons for invading Iraq (WMD, imminent threat, Saddam attacked us on 9/11).

It's gone from attacking those who attacked us to a nation building exercise where the American People just need to be proud, sit down, and shut up, that we are spreading Democracy via the barell of a gun.

10:35 PM  
Anonymous diane said...

Vietnam all over again.
Look at how we left there.

Republicans don't care about "people".
They care about taxes, morals, marriages,values,wars, bombs, terrorists etc. etc.
The only time I hear them talk about people are when they talk about unborn babies, Stem cell research snowflake babies and Terri Schiavo.
They could care less about unemployed people, uninsured people, es. children, they could care less about the Iraq men women and children killed there.
They deal in abstracts and they don't let "details" get in their way.
They scare the hell out of me!

6:20 AM  
Anonymous KK said...

I am with you guys, every one knows arabs can't handle living in a free society. They were perfectly content and the oil was cheaper.

We need to keep shouting down republicans everytime they try to speak.

I mean they got foxnews and talk radio isn't that enough free speech?

6:40 PM  
Blogger Nitpicker said...


You're at least attempting humor and I appreciate that, but don't you think that you should work on getting some people on your side who aren't, well, wrong all the time? If I were a Republican, I think I'd be all for shouting down these guys who continue to embarrass my party.

I've said before--to members of my own party--that I think certain types of protest are useless if not counterproductive. However, listen to those women. They believe passionately in something and, yeah, that carries them away. I'll take that over the bullshit crocodile tears of John "Small Price" Boehner any day.

5:31 AM  
Anonymous KK said...


I know what you mean, the only people with real opinions and are liberals and the best way to advance those ideas is to interrupt a heritage foundation conference.

The only problem is when liberal politician are shouted down, then somebody needs to be hit with a taser.


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OpenID dbrutus said...

The actual conservative argument is that war is hell no matter how necessary. Looking at the butcher's bill historically, the price has been pretty small for operations this size. We're blessed with really good doctors, logistics, and excellent training.

The part of the argument that's tough to say out loud (at least by people who have a great deal of public influence) is that the muslims have been imploding for centuries and the process seems to be accelerating the past few decades. In a world where smaller and smaller groups can make war and where the old westphalian international system is manifestly breaking down, this implosion is tremendously dangerous.

A functional, free Iraq could help stop the decline. We seem to be well on the way to the point where Iraq's military can safeguard things so that there will continue to be free elections.

polishifter - Out of the half of Iraq the coalition has handed back to Iraqi's freely elected government, Basra was probably the best candidate for the government's opponents to overrun it and take over. They tried and failed. Maliki's offensive worked, though he won ugly.

The sunnis are likely to come back to the government (so I heard on NPR this week). The sadrists are finally facing their moment of truth whether they're going to be a military or political force. This is progress in a very rough neighborhood.

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